General DiscussionBest pos 4's at the moment?

grimstroke, willow, shaker, ES

phoenix

S I L E N C E R silencer

weaver ?

undying is a pos5 yes. grimstroke is busted. shaker is great. dark willow, phoenix, venge are good too.

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Undying, veno, mirana, razor I play as 3.5. Warlock and grimstroke as 4/5 atm.

I think thats the first i've ever heard of razor support.

Treant protector is picked in 15% games in divine+. Chen on the other hand has one of the biggest overall win rates ever, despite the nerfs. + picks mentioned above

grimstroke

Didn't ever say I played him as a support more as a "wreck their safelane" 3.5

Umm warlock

Treant was pretty good last time I tried him.
There's this annoying meme hammer build to shove lanes.

Lil is the best 4 pos

shaker, grimstroke, willow

Tree grim willow shakr veng phoenix

Every hero is good if it fits the situation. Meepo is good, Invoker is good, Arc Warden is good. What more is good?

Every hero is good if it fits the situation. Meepo is good, Invoker is good, Arc Warden is good. What more is good?

it`s lil bro ;)

Also depends from the skill bracket , if you are high or above the mentioned heroes are the way to go.
But if you are in normal skill you can pick lot of heroes as 4 , im enjoyng zeus 4 these days for example...

grimstroke - dark willow - earthshaker - phoenix - treant protector

Pos4? Phoenix :)

has Escape, Gold talent, lv15 talent Powerspike (1 Fire spirit for entire wave's melee), only need his Sun well positioned to freak out entire enemy team :D

Maybe riki :)