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General DiscussionUsefulness as carry in this patch

Usefulness as carry in this patch in General Discussion
AnŦaiN

    Why does carry role nowadays has no impact whatsoever . If my team takes pudge or lich or sd or some passive support OR shitty passive offlaner like void , Or farming mid , its like the game is over before it began , not enough space for 2 cores to farm , passive support cant gank efficiently and the game is over before it began , the carry efficiency is bullshit if our ancient is destroyed . Just what is the solotion

    MuLLi

      Maybe im drunk...I just can't understand your point

      edit. are u dotka too?

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      Vandal

        it has always been like this though. supports do everything and make shit happen while carry does the ez job

        cartel

          from watching mister gorgc stream he picks gyro/bs/ursa/tiny when these situations happen

          Sheep

            what is this, the dotos forum? I tried to find my email but got kinda lost.

            help?

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            Feachairu

              wat do you mean?what help you need?

              Jicniv Rune Farlord El Nix

                the solution is be the one who makes spaces and solves the problem (play Offlane urself Axe, Phoenix..)

                CUTNPASTE

                  Only played a couple of games, feels bad though. I think you just have to pick really strong laners or resign yourself to playing from behind.

                  AnŦaiN

                    Legends and archons saying they cant understand my problem , well even if u do understand u cant solve it .
                    @Feachairu , im saying that if my team has no spacemaker and i have hardcarry or if my team also gets farmers with no fighters and im the hard carry , how should i win the game (Given that im not the lastpick i picked 3 or 4 and lastpick was void offlane Kappa) .
                    @Cutnpaste , You played 2 games after 3 months as carry and u lost both xD , i can feel dude .

                    AnŦaiN

                      Playing offlane myself , its such a long process to learn offlane from basics . Im carry i should be the carry , man , i should have played offlane from start . My offlane heroes NS , TINY and CENT are some of my first heroes and only CENT is in playable shape nowadays .

                      Kotato

                        ^91% core role, hahaha that is why you do not understand dota

                        spilled

                          I reviewed all your games and, yeah, you're right, in every game carry seems to have no impact
                          wonder why that is

                          ';..;'

                            you don't need a super hard carry this patch in my opinion you need to outplay the enemy team early with some agro heros like ursa and many etc and the most important atleast you need a hero that can hit towers... if you start killing the enemy team in less 6 mins the game is kinda going well , don't forget that everyone have a rough days where they can fail and trash talk etc.. anw gl hf

                            Feachairu

                              ah no wasnt question at you,i asked sheep

                              Feachairu

                                not a pos 1 player,cant really help your question

                                AnŦaiN

                                  @Kotato and @Waitforme , i wouldnt have asked in this forum if I hadnt realized i was trash on carry nowadays . Im asking for suggestion and u say again that im trash when i already accepted im trash since im asking for help .
                                  I do not understand why the fyck u wont give advice and just post sarcasm , i will just take it as im more trash .

                                  Jicniv Rune Farlord El Nix

                                    As in nature, the more flexible and adaptive a creature is, the more successful it is

                                    Kotato

                                      @Kotato and @Waitforme , i wouldnt have asked in this forum if I hadnt realized i was trash on carry nowadays . Im asking for suggestion and u say again that im trash when i already accepted im trash since im asking for help .
                                      I do not understand why the fyck u wont give advice and just post sarcasm , i will just take it as im more trash .

                                      why do you not understand the advice behind my words? Not at any point my comments says that you are trash... are you crazy or paranoid? Where is the word trash! Cant you just accept that i mean "play less carry/play support". Playing suppport will teach you so much more about the game than your one-sided pos 1/2 gameplay. Playing support will give you map awareness for example. So here, here is your tips, but you just dont wanna hear that advice do you? You dread to even imagine playing smth different than your normal dota thing

                                      AnŦaiN

                                        @Kotato , hmm now that u say i was quite wrong in typing that message and well i will gladly act upon ur advice . Just tell which support heroes will be good for me .

                                        Kotato

                                          ^glad that you reconsider my point. If you wanted my suggestion for a support - why didnt you just open my dotabuff :D you would see i spam silencer (at least on this acc) and then you could ask why. And my answer would be simple: silencer teaches 3 things the best:
                                          1. Map awareness (u press ult in teamfight and therefore you should always look at you teammates in case they engage, even if it is the other side of the map)
                                          2. Fight participation: you learn to follow your team and participate in gangs because you want these sweet +2 intel points
                                          3. Positioning: because in a teamfight you learn not to die but also not to be too far (radius of the intel-steal is 900)

                                          The 3 things are universally good for other supports but you are just more motivated to learn them as silencer more than as other support

                                          PS that is all i can suggest

                                          AnŦaiN

                                            Thats quite fair , lion ss and bane which are my kind of sups ought to have these qualities . Moreover map awareness isnt that hard for me cuz i play centaur troll and voker a lot . But those other 2 points will be very hard for me cuz im always itching to go first in a teamfight sad .

                                            Kotato

                                              always itching to go first in a teamfight

                                              sometimes it is worthy to try something new, something that is different to your normal instincts (only after playing carry i understood the role of support)