General Discussion

General Discussion7.20 Released on 19th Nov

7.20 Released on 19th Nov in General Discussion
Mekarazium

    remove grimstroke, pangolier and dark willow from this game

    i have 5 reports to use

      remove lich sacrifice, enigma deny, oracle deny. dumb shit like that shouldnt be in the game.

      Feachairu

        how to do oracle deny

        Tu tayta

          I guess you nuke your creep and then right click it.

          cartel

            divine 3 game knowledge pepega

            Atha

              I agree, Deso need to be buffed. Deso is so bad compared to maelstrom which only cost 2.7k and deals 160 dmg to multiple unit.
              Like Grim suggestion, I think the inner CD for deso should be separated from the basher CD. or even removed.

              Atha

                Because only bash should have CD to prevent permabashing

                Atha

                  I dont know if valve is intentional or what, but the newest heroes like pango DW grimstroke feels both imba but at the same time also feels not fun to be played

                  Tu tayta

                    Nah, I always have fun playing DW and while I hate Pango, I can tell people enjoy to play it. I can agree on Grim being OP and played mostly as mmr grinder rather than for any enjoyable experience though.

                    kuci

                      Bring back tindersaw and abadong oh also tidehunter

                      Atha

                        Abaddon has been forgotten for way too long. He is the main holder of both Vlad and Solar Crest, and both items are so bad and nearly brings few impacts.
                        Abaddon has been buffed since last patches though, but still unplayable.
                        Maybe reduce death coil self-damage for earlier lvls would be good. Death coil so bad for trading dmg early game and using it to secure last hit also means losing 75 health which is a lot early game. Heck, it doesnt even deal so much dmg

                        Feachairu

                          that seems really good,i should use it when i play oracle

                          Moranague

                            @Nep

                            I've been saying for a long time that the biggest problem Abaddon has is that mist coil self damage should just be HP loss, not actual damage. This ruins support Abaddon, as he can't use clarity to spam coil from a distance to keep his carry strong/enemy heroes harassed. With this change, it won't cancel clarity and other effects cancelled on self damage.

                            If they removed this one annoying feature, I think he'd move to a top pick roaming support.

                            kuci

                              but mist coil lethal self damage can be value too, i propose to rework and rescale its damage, first 3 level doesn't cancel clarity like pudge rot maybe?

                              Totentanz to The King: M ...

                                i fucking hope talents get nerfed overall. they make regular heroes into broken powerhouses and that is not okay

                                Fidessa

                                  make beastmaster great again! xD + bring back irontalion