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Clippy

    Pretty simple, is it not better 90% of the time to just gloss over urn and go double bracer soul ring into a hood of defiance/pipe since basically your role on the hero is to initiate to disable cores at the expense of being nuked by supports? The hero has almost the same strength gain as centaur but can be fragile against high magic nukes.

    Obviously if you are playing against high regen heroes like DK, Timber, Huskar etc. it's better to get the urn and turn it into a Spirit Vessel yes I know.

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    AnŦaiN

      Why pick es in archon bracket in the first place ?

      Spírít

        Urn deals 25 damage per second for 8 seconds for one charge, meaning for 875 gold you get +2 all stats, 2 armour, 1.5 mana regen and a possibly infinite number of 200 DoT instances (before reductions). This can help secure kills early game and disable blink daggers in the mid/late game. It also has the versatility of being used to heal allies, providing 30 health regen for 8 seconds (240 health total). Even if you do not get a ton of value out of Spirit Vessel, the Urn itself is still insane value assuming you can finish it at a reasonable time.

        How many times have you ganked someone and they barely walk away with under 100 hp? An Urn could be the difference between a kill and you wasting your time in early game ganks.

        Bracers are cool and all, but in your example you're comparing buying an Urn (875 gold) to two bracers and a soul ring (1800). The fair comparison would be Urn vs Soul Ring, and I would pick Urn almost every time on a pos 4 like earth spirit.

        Murranji

          I have a 33% winrate with ES on my team and can count the number of good ES players I’ve played with on one hand. Almost guaranteed loss hero outside very high skill brackets.

          JDF8

            urns really really good and basically every team should have one. as a bonus it stacks up ur dot damage and gives mana regen and some tankiness. bracers are just bracers

            Ayaneru   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

              Learn to play Grimstroke instead. A lot easier to play and also has all the disables: slow, stun, silence, and aoe disable. A good laner too.

              Aimstrong

                you want to get 1-2 bracer and then going for urn -> spirit vessel
                everything else is just stupid and game losing

                dont check my old games with this hero, i had no idea what i was doing

                Clippy

                  Also for anyone wondering why a 2k shitter is asking about this hero, it's so that higher MMR players will give advice so I can actually improve lol.

                  Sinta

                    You cant use high player advice.on.low skill bracket.... you just cant almost all people in your bracket is tilted and dont listen

                    Gard Pedersen

                      why would anyone ever build pipe anymore when u can just get bracers lmao

                      papito bravo

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                        Because pipe is beau~taful