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General DiscussionHow to know in what "skill level" are you playing ?

How to know in what "skill level" are you playing ? in General Discussion
blk.

    Hey! , is there a way now , to know in at what lvl are you playing ? , after a update now there isnt the option "search for the exactly player" it says "hero" , btw , is there a "winrate" to get a High and Very high level? im mean like - 50% Winrate : High - 75% Winrate : Veryhigh ? , or something like that ? (just an example...)

    Thanks!

    Bakhin Tokhin

      Now u can't. but it was skill bracket: Low, Normal, High and Very High. btw just check wr..

      blk.

        just check what ?

        blk.

          so now , u can play against NOOBS NOOBS and VERY VERY HIGH pro's? , thats what happened after the update?

          Relentless

            The only way to really know for sure what your MMR is would be to make 6 teams with 6 players rotating 1 player out for each team. Then you have to play 3 games with each team to get the tMMR recorded. Then you solve a system of equations using this information to find the 6 hidden MMR scores. But if you just make 1 team you can tell that your MMR is possibly near the tMMR for the team if everyone on the team is of similar skill.

            Besides that...if you are very good you could see your position on live pages and know that you are very good...which you would already know if you were that good. If you get on the top 34 overall pages...that is usually the top 1% to 0.5% of MMR scores depending on how many ppl are playing at the time. If you want to extend this method you could check live page sorted by hero and find the top 17 pages of games for a hero. Page 17 for an often played hero like Pudge might be top 5% to 2.5%. Page 17 for a very uncommon hero like Chen might be top 25% to 13%. You do not have to be playing the hero...it just needs to be in your game.

            Or if you scour the recent games page just after your match you can find your game sorting by Very High, High, and Normal. As far as I can tell at the First Blood patch Very High was changed so it is now top 25%. High is now the 2nd quartile. And Normal is the bottom 50% of MMR scores.

            These are some of the ways that you can determine impartially your skill level despite all the roadblocks Valve has created to make it hard to do. Keep in mind for live pages and skill bracket methods...1 game could be a coincidence. Valve matches people even more than 1K MMR apart on the same team so you really need to check several games to be sure what score you have.

            You can find tMMR on dotabuff here. http://dotabuff.com/teams

            The average score is currently 3050 tMMR. If that corresponds to the skill brackets directly (maybe it does, maybe not)...then Very High is above 3500 MMR, High is 3,000 to 3500, and Normal is below 3000. I think people start with 2,000 MMR with new accounts...if they are not smurfs they usually stay near 2k for many games.

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            blk.

              wow ty , but i didnt understood all , just one more thing bro , you mentionated something about "25% ,50% ..." , about those numbers , you ment like : to be playing on hard your WR have to be up 50% and VeryHigh 75% ?

              Relentless

                Winrate has little to do with it...no one but the very best players who also play with other good players in a stack can remain much over 50% win in the long term. Consider Dendi... http://dotabuff.com/players/70388657 less than 56% win. Everyone knows he is one of the absolute most talented and experienced players in the world. But he doesn't stack much so his winrate is not that high. But Dendi's 56% win...he won those games solo queing with average ppl against the top stacks.

                The % I am talking about are % of players. So 50% of players have MMR below 3,000. If 5 such players play on a team the game will be rated "Normal". 25% of players have MMR between 3,000 and 3,500. If 5 of those players are on a team it will be rated "High". And the same for Very High above 3500 MMR...the top 25% of players.

                The top 1% of players...people who are usually on those 34 live pages games...that is currently about 4700 MMR if you look at team scores...although really its a bit less because the top players make more teams. Maybe more like 4400 MMR...its hard to be sure because so many of the top teams consist of the same players rearranged or renamed.

                http://dotabuff.com/teams see the top 3 pub teams are all really the same team. They just changed their name. Many of the other teams on that first page of top rated teams are also re-groupings of the same handful of excellent players.

                Your team does not have a rating yet because it only played 2 games. http://dotabuff.com/teams/949226 You need 3 games in a row with the same team roster to get a tMMR. But you could try to look at who you played... http://dotabuff.com/matches/347789998
                The team you played against here is rated 3095, very slightly above average.

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