haha what a moron i too am sure that accepting massive amounts of people into countries with incompatible culture wont have any cultural/political consequences!! ;)
implying 5% of 80mil pop country is a negligible amount))
implying it wont grow))
implying that further generations will assimilate instead of segregating themselves and forming ghettos with their own laws))
implying that anybody still uses implying in 2017))
im not talking about establishing caliphate in germany, at least not in the nearest decades
5% is a huge fucking amount especially when it comes to people whose culture and way of life is almost a 180° from that of europe
grow? maybe, grow to an amount where they have enough political influence to actually have impact on politics?
what is ur point? that this willnot happen? or that its okay if it happens?
ghettos with own laws? this is not russia)
haha right because its very easy to enforce ur laws in ghettoes, US/Paris cops do it all the time(oh wait they dont because they dont want to get killed ;) )
"lawless" areas dont exist, at least not fully lawless, and esp not in germany
5% of the german population includes a huge amount of guest workers from the 20th century, most of whom who are fully integrated now, take kitty for example (hes not a guest worker or german either, but hes a muslim) who studies cmoputer science in switzerland right now
do u think hes part of some secret plot of destroying the west by islamization
another issue is implying that every single refugee will stay, even the most left party in the parliament suggests regulations
being muslim doesnt mean u hate westenr culture, or are part of a terror organization, or want sharia law
what? that comparison doesnt make sense. you study things either because you are interested in it or because you need it (for job or w/e). if you are actually interested in politics and w/e, sure, but i dont think you are and you are just saying random shit to look interested because they are neither funny nor promote any actual discussion just like the memes. "making fun of morons makes us feel superior and covers up for our own lack of knowledge of history, economics and politics" is what you said anyway.
for fucks sake if u assume that every1 who opposes immigration is some moron who thinks theyre all jihadists or a part of some mega evil jewish+ISIS+obamas plan of destroying europe i can see why liberal movements are such a circlejerk
being muslim doesnt mean u hate westenr culture, or are part of a terror organization, or want sharia law
being muslim means ure a mere human, and like any other human want to be surrounded by ur own kind in a society ure used to, so u will vote for any changes that help u achieve that
another issue is implying that every single refugee will stay, even the most left party in the parliament suggests regulations
i am 99% sure that every single muslim will try to stay because its way better than returning into a poor country that is now also fucking demolished by war, if i was muslim and gave a single fuck about my familys future id hold on to my spot in europe as tight as i could
i dont see how goverment wants to force them all to go back, afaik they didnt have very good paper control(if any) at least wat the start of all this migration thing, do they want to deport them all back eventually?
for fucks sake if u assume that every1 who opposes immigration is some moron who thinks theyre all jihadists or a part of some mega evil jewish+ISIS+obamas plan of destroying europe i can see why liberal movements are such a circlejerk
idk thats kinda exactly what i was originally joking about
there are only very very few people who agree with a no-borders-policy
The problem with Muslims and people from over there is that they don't adapt to society. I'm all in for helping people and keeping soft borders but you can't just come here, exploit the system and be an ass while doing it. Certain moral standards and sosial manners are expected. By the way, they are now part of another country, act like it, you're not from that country anymore, of course you can have feelings towards it and care but don't come here and try to change the soil you're at to reflect what you had. That's just not the way it works. You're in the fucking position and situation you're in BECAUSE OF THAT ALREADY, FUCKING WAKE UP.
He addresses the problem of defining "radical" in the beginning. Radicals are not people who commit crimes, they are people whose beliefs are RADICALLY different from the western culture and could end up supporting ideological movements that are threat to the current.
Legally prosecute cartoonists = Oppose freedom of speech and art or whatever.
Strict Sharia law everywhere = Oppose human rights and democracy.
Honor killing of women is OK = do I need to explain this?
Bin laden was probably OK = ?
Suicide bombing is sometimes ok = ???
Of course his classification is not absolute and the numbers could be off, but the point still goes.
Also, he did state that the source for the data was "pew Research Center", which a respectable one.
Legally prosecute cartoonists = Oppose freedom of speech and art or whatever.
blown our of proportion, lots of people who are offended by stuff would want those who did it prosecuted, that doesnt make them radical. "hillary for prison" = radicals too?
Strict Sharia law everywhere = Oppose human rights and democracy.
sharia law is massive and doesnt boil down to stoning gays and whatnot, it is different in different countries and radical branches of it arent widely accepted. just because u support sharia law in general doesnt mean u are pro-stoning and pro-jihad or whatever
"Sharia guides all aspects of Muslim life, including daily routines, familial and religious obligations, and financial dealings." It is a moral code that covers marriage, crime and business. Different branches of Islam use different versions of the law. Some elements are widely accepted, such as the immorality of fraud. But for countries and sects that follow the harshest versions in which thieves have their hands cut off and unfaithful women are stoned to death, the opposition from the West, and parts of the Muslim world as well, is strong and visceral."
in russia theres a retarded law that can get u senenced for hentai. go and ask people in russia if they support the law system(in general). everybody who answers positively is consequently a nimrod who wants to jail people for hentai?
So those cartoonists get gunned down for drawing shitty comics and some people still want them prosecuted? That's quite extreme if you ask me. "Hillary for prison" actually had something to do with crimes she might have committed. That's different, unless you consider drawing controversial cartoons a crime.
I'm not gonna go deep here, since I don't really know that much about Sharia law. Though, I believe that advocating for entire nations to be under law that dictates daily lives to details and limits their choices and opportunities, making them behave in unison is radically different from western culture.
In the end, nobody knows for sure what is right in this world, but you still have to make choices in what to believe. When I say "radical", I don't mean it as a bad thing, rather just saying that it's too different from western culture and what I believe in.
About the last part, I guess if watching hentai was large part of your culture, you could say that those who oppose it are radicals :D.
Though, lately even western culture seems to be morphing into something I have problems with.
So those cartoonists get gunned down for drawing shitty comics and some people still want them prosecuted? That's quite extreme if you ask me. "Hillary for prison" actually had something to do with crimes she might have committed. That's different, unless you consider drawing controversial cartoons a crime.
hilary for prison advocates just want her jailed regardless of whether or not she commited anything to warrant it because they strongly dislike clinton
people who think cartoonists deserved it also say it because they strongly dislike what they have drawn
basement "in your face" atheists glorified varg burning the church because they disliked religion - should they also be called radical(aside from radical morons)?
people make radical statements about something they strongly dislike all the time, that doesnt neccessarily imply they are a threat to society, otherwise every 15yo edgy utube commenter and half of bible belts population would be in jail
I'm not gonna go deep here, since I don't really know that much about Sharia law. Though, I believe that advocating for entire nations to be under law that dictates daily lives to details and limits their choices and opportunities, making them behave in unison is radically different from western culture.
it doesnt matter which IDE to code helloworld in
Fine I'll just burn the program into the EPROM physically
well, the most important IDE is my big brain ;-)
precisely
recent pic of /r/the_donald user commenting on the islamization of europe
haha what a moron i too am sure that accepting massive amounts of people into countries with incompatible culture wont have any cultural/political consequences!! ;)
hehe muslims (<6% of all germans, more like 5%) will take over germany and kill all gays rape all wemen and marry children hehehE
implying 5% of 80mil pop country is a negligible amount))
implying it wont grow))
implying that further generations will assimilate instead of segregating themselves and forming ghettos with their own laws))
implying that anybody still uses implying in 2017))
5% is negligible if ure talkign about establishing a caliphate in germany)
grow? maybe, grow to an amount where they have enough political influence to actually have impact on politics?
ghettos with own laws? this is not russia)
implying implications is good even in 2017)
also implying all of the 5% are islamists LuL
muslims =/= extremists. yes most of the time they are associated with each other but not all muslims care about what the fuck you do.
im not talking about establishing caliphate in germany, at least not in the nearest decades
5% is a huge fucking amount especially when it comes to people whose culture and way of life is almost a 180° from that of europe
what is ur point? that this willnot happen? or that its okay if it happens?
haha right because its very easy to enforce ur laws in ghettoes, US/Paris cops do it all the time(oh wait they dont because they dont want to get killed ;) )
hello im not talking about Le boMBing xD
im talking about mixing unmixable cultures because "muh culturalism"
"lawless" areas dont exist, at least not fully lawless, and esp not in germany
5% of the german population includes a huge amount of guest workers from the 20th century, most of whom who are fully integrated now, take kitty for example (hes not a guest worker or german either, but hes a muslim) who studies cmoputer science in switzerland right now
do u think hes part of some secret plot of destroying the west by islamization
another issue is implying that every single refugee will stay, even the most left party in the parliament suggests regulations
being muslim doesnt mean u hate westenr culture, or are part of a terror organization, or want sharia law
trump is the best
do you guys seriously think about these kinds of things in your daily lifes? nothing you do will impact anything anyway.
when i read about it on reddit yes
dumbest thing i read in a week, why study anything remorelty big then if u inidivdually dont have an impact over it
thats why i study quantum mechanics, cuz its smaller than me =) ;) :) xD xd
what? that comparison doesnt make sense. you study things either because you are interested in it or because you need it (for job or w/e). if you are actually interested in politics and w/e, sure, but i dont think you are and you are just saying random shit to look interested because they are neither funny nor promote any actual discussion just like the memes. "making fun of morons makes us feel superior and covers up for our own lack of knowledge of history, economics and politics" is what you said anyway.
for fucks sake if u assume that every1 who opposes immigration is some moron who thinks theyre all jihadists or a part of some mega evil jewish+ISIS+obamas plan of destroying europe i can see why liberal movements are such a circlejerk
being muslim means ure a mere human, and like any other human want to be surrounded by ur own kind in a society ure used to, so u will vote for any changes that help u achieve that
i am 99% sure that every single muslim will try to stay because its way better than returning into a poor country that is now also fucking demolished by war, if i was muslim and gave a single fuck about my familys future id hold on to my spot in europe as tight as i could
i dont see how goverment wants to force them all to go back, afaik they didnt have very good paper control(if any) at least wat the start of all this migration thing, do they want to deport them all back eventually?
of course i am interested in politics, the fact that i dont know much about it doesnt change it
right because we totally dont have a discussion with spunki here at this very moment in this very thread
idk thats kinda exactly what i was originally joking about
there are only very very few people who agree with a no-borders-policy
uh oh mister magnus arrived ))
i still remember the nice talk we had when u said middle eastern and african people are degenerates))
good point
spunki ure 6 mionths younger than me so mb grow up a bit before u get into serious topics?
i dont believe anything in this thread anyway only if it comes from arin
i thought u were leaving this thread
do i need to post more indian/teenager memes?
The problem with Muslims and people from over there is that they don't adapt to society. I'm all in for helping people and keeping soft borders but you can't just come here, exploit the system and be an ass while doing it. Certain moral standards and sosial manners are expected. By the way, they are now part of another country, act like it, you're not from that country anymore, of course you can have feelings towards it and care but don't come here and try to change the soil you're at to reflect what you had. That's just not the way it works. You're in the fucking position and situation you're in BECAUSE OF THAT ALREADY, FUCKING WAKE UP.
And that yields for everyone.
just skipped through it
"great britain 2.8mil muslims, 78% wanted cartoonists of mohammad to be legally prosecuted, so we're talking about 2.2 mil radicals"
ROFL yeah "muh radical islamic muslim terrorists!!"
also isnt this guy in many turning point usa memes? that basically discredits his opinion already
this guy is being very liberal in who he defines as radicals and he doesnt cite the sources(except the population data)
wew lad
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/nov/05/ben-shapiro/shapiro-says-majority-muslims-are-radicals/
He addresses the problem of defining "radical" in the beginning. Radicals are not people who commit crimes, they are people whose beliefs are RADICALLY different from the western culture and could end up supporting ideological movements that are threat to the current.
Legally prosecute cartoonists = Oppose freedom of speech and art or whatever.
Strict Sharia law everywhere = Oppose human rights and democracy.
Honor killing of women is OK = do I need to explain this?
Bin laden was probably OK = ?
Suicide bombing is sometimes ok = ???
Of course his classification is not absolute and the numbers could be off, but the point still goes.
Also, he did state that the source for the data was "pew Research Center", which a respectable one.
HUH?
blown our of proportion, lots of people who are offended by stuff would want those who did it prosecuted, that doesnt make them radical. "hillary for prison" = radicals too?
sharia law is massive and doesnt boil down to stoning gays and whatnot, it is different in different countries and radical branches of it arent widely accepted. just because u support sharia law in general doesnt mean u are pro-stoning and pro-jihad or whatever
"Sharia guides all aspects of Muslim life, including daily routines, familial and religious obligations, and financial dealings." It is a moral code that covers marriage, crime and business. Different branches of Islam use different versions of the law. Some elements are widely accepted, such as the immorality of fraud. But for countries and sects that follow the harshest versions in which thieves have their hands cut off and unfaithful women are stoned to death, the opposition from the West, and parts of the Muslim world as well, is strong and visceral."
in russia theres a retarded law that can get u senenced for hentai. go and ask people in russia if they support the law system(in general). everybody who answers positively is consequently a nimrod who wants to jail people for hentai?
So those cartoonists get gunned down for drawing shitty comics and some people still want them prosecuted? That's quite extreme if you ask me. "Hillary for prison" actually had something to do with crimes she might have committed. That's different, unless you consider drawing controversial cartoons a crime.
I'm not gonna go deep here, since I don't really know that much about Sharia law. Though, I believe that advocating for entire nations to be under law that dictates daily lives to details and limits their choices and opportunities, making them behave in unison is radically different from western culture.
In the end, nobody knows for sure what is right in this world, but you still have to make choices in what to believe. When I say "radical", I don't mean it as a bad thing, rather just saying that it's too different from western culture and what I believe in.
About the last part, I guess if watching hentai was large part of your culture, you could say that those who oppose it are radicals :D.
Though, lately even western culture seems to be morphing into something I have problems with.
Anyway, any of you guys have a pet turtle or something that's not a cat or a dog?
yes a child
ive a parrot
hilary for prison advocates just want her jailed regardless of whether or not she commited anything to warrant it because they strongly dislike clinton
people who think cartoonists deserved it also say it because they strongly dislike what they have drawn
basement "in your face" atheists glorified varg burning the church because they disliked religion - should they also be called radical(aside from radical morons)?
people make radical statements about something they strongly dislike all the time, that doesnt neccessarily imply they are a threat to society, otherwise every 15yo edgy utube commenter and half of bible belts population would be in jail
agree.
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