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          Well then you can forget to have a nice dinner in Switzerland, you poor dota boys

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            arin

              how the fuck do subnets and masks work i went through 3 or 4 sites explaining it and i can't still understand it properly

              arin


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                    arin be more accurate about your problem

                    E: do you have some shit to do or you just want to understand the theory?

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                    arin

                      i might get a practical question regarding the topic (exam with randomly generated set of questions from like 160 possible, there are around 6 questions regarding this topic)

                      but with every moment spent studying it, i feel like i understand it less
                      could you explain the basics to me please?

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                        Example with easy IPs
                        A-class IP: 10.0.0.1 Netmask 255.0.0.0 (/8)
                        B-class IP: 127.0.0.1 Netmask 255.255.0.0 (/16)
                        C-class IP: 192.0.0.1 Netmask 255.255.255.0 (/24)

                        You can write this shit in binary to have it easier
                        A-class IP: 00001010.00000000.00000000.00000001 Netmask: 11111111.00000000.00000000.00000000
                        B-class IP: 01111111.00000000.00000000.00000001 Netmask: 11111111.11111111.00000000.00000000
                        C-class IP: 11000000.10101000.00000000.00000001 Netmask: 11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000
                        All the 1's in the netmask are the Net-ID, the part where the 0's begins is the Host-ID. The net ID must be the same with all hosts in your network to be able to communicate. A host is everything that has an IP. The Host ID is the range where you can have hosts. For example you can add much more hosts in a A-class IP than in a C-class IP.

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                          When an IP is 192.168.0.1/24 this means the netmask is 255.255.255.0. You can build the number 255 with 8 bits. (1111'1111).
                          So the netmask is 11111111.11111111.11111111.00000000 = 8 bits + 8 bits + 8 bits = 24

                          E: the Host-ID is 0000'0000 this means you have space for 256 (0-255) IPs that you can add. The lowest 0 (the network itself) and the highest 255 (Broadcast) IP is that you can't take so you can only add hosts with the IP 1-254.

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                          arin

                            so the IP classes are given by IANA(RIR)? or the number (/xx) decides the class?

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                              But what if you only got this C-class IP what if you want to split them into multiple networks? Here is where you use Subnetting.
                              When the IP is 192.168.0.1/25 then the netmask is 255.255.255.128 = 11111111.11111111.11111111.10000000

                              This means you got now 2 networks. IPs from 0-127 and 128-255 are now 2 different networks and again you can't use the lowest and the highest IPs, so you can only use 1-126 and 129-254

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                                Yes by IANA

                                arin

                                  so when dividing networks im dividing the addresses into a binary tree?

                                  and when i have an ip let's say 168.xxx.xxx.xxx then it's B class for sure, do i understand that correctly

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                                    Yes
                                    Then you use the /16 Netmask if there is no special subnetting required

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                                    arin

                                      (I suppose that the best way to solve some optimal dividing of a network is just writing the netmask in binary and then divide it?)
                                      e: (while needing two more addresses, one for broadcast and one for subnetwork so the minimal network size is 4 addresses?)

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                                      arin

                                        i don't understand the need for ipv6 then
                                        couldn't we just use netmasks for everything and if we were to run out of them too then make netmasks of netmasks?

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                                          Yes. You can only divide it in an even number so if you use /26 you will have 4 networks but you can leave 1 empty. Just keep in mind the more you divide the smaller your networks will get

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                                            All IPv4 networks are already used, IPv6 had to replace it because more and more people want an internet connection in these days

                                            arin

                                              yeah i get that but why can't i just make a subnet under every ip to solve that

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                                                Man I don't know but I also don't care right now because I need my sleep xD

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                                                  Good night

                                                  arin

                                                    good night, thank you for explaining the basics

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                                                      Its ok, I'm just a basic bitch, wearing my Ugs and drinking starbucks Keepo

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                                                          bum farto

                                                            Very basic explanations but well articulated. Good shit.

                                                            robert

                                                              Learning new things everyday seemsgood

                                                              ywn

                                                                The numbers... what do they mean?

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                                                                  ywn

                                                                    What's an Internet?

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