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General Discussionwhat item should be prioritize to drop for other items: aquila/pms, b...

what item should be prioritize to drop for other items: aquila/pms, bottle, wand. in General Discussion
Karazuri

    most difficult shit ever

    Soultrap

      giff bottle

      TripleSteal-

        hi son

        TripleSteal-

          generally, u might want to drop pms/wand or give bottle to teammate

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          Mushi

            Don't buy too many utility items. It sucks for the costs, delaying your other items and having to sell them off which means deficit. Unless your <insert item here> was the key factor in ensuring your triple kill.

            Mushi

              Nah who cares about your teammates, 350 gold is too much to be given away.

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              Soultrap

                If 350 gold is too much to give away, don't expect more than 2 obs and 2 sentry wards from your support. ;P

                Riguma Borusu

                  I always give my bottle to supports past its usefulness. However, in terms of priorities I'd say it goes:
                  Aquila
                  Bottle or Wand, depends
                  PMS
                  In most cases at least, PMS' utility falls off the earliest, after that Bottle or Wand are less useful (keep Wand if you're a hero like bristle, medusa, etc, keep bottle if you roam a lot and get some runes), and Aquila is a 1k stat item that's good in your inventory at all times as an Agi hero, until you get something a lot better.

                  arin

                    i'd probably sell pms first
                    i think you decide between bottle and wand depending on how good you're doing - if you're ahead and you have map control it's good to have bottle since you can store the rune and do something with it whenever you want
                    aquila latest

                    though idk if it's a good idea to buy that many cheap items

                    Sinister

                      PMS is a very powerful item, but under 14/15 minutes of the game. i would choose PMS to drop first instead of bottle or wand or even mango BibleThump

                      Rust

                        Can we add quelling blade in the mix as well?

                        MangoMarkus

                          ^ Dropping your quelling is only good if you play a melee carry, who is bonus damage based: Bloodcyka, Lc, Lycan, or so.
                          Usually you should keep it, it's all through the game an effective farming mechanism.

                          arin

                            ^ "Dropping your quelling is only good if you play a melee carry"

                            jus chillen

                              or dont buy aquila ever 4head

                              jus chillen

                                buy quelling blade and pms on sniper and enjoy low prio

                                jus chillen

                                  actually ive seen some 5.5kj guy play sniper offlane with pms rofl

                                  arin

                                    actually sniper is 12th in number of bought pms
                                    http://www.dotabuff.com/items/poor-mans-shield

                                    jus chillen

                                      good shit))

                                      Riguma Borusu

                                        Of all heroes I play I pretty much only get PMS on Slardar.

                                        Filthy

                                          Aquila is usually dropped last just doing a little math

                                          MARLAN

                                            BOTTLE > WAND > AQUILA > PMS

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                                            Karazuri

                                              well ember is an example which i get all 4 him. ta and sf too gets 3. err you name all agility semi carries ROFL

                                              Relentless

                                                Bottle can still have real power late game with runes. Starting Haste, DD, Invis or Regen when you really need it is a big deal. Keep that for a teamate or even just leave it on the courier if no one can hold it. If nothing else you can use it in the fountain to heal much faster to return immediately to a fight at base... you survive but your mana pool takes forever to replenish without a fountain bottle.

                                                PMS is the weakest of those, drop it first. It's only good for tanking harrass early.

                                                Magic wand (465 gold) should be replaced next over aquilla (1010 gold) because of cost and stats.

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                                                Mekarazium
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                                                  jo~

                                                    imo pms should be the first to drop for almost every situation, maybe except against pl
                                                    for the other 3 the decision is mostly fluid
                                                    bottle's worth depends most of the time on ur map control, like if u have good map control then bottle can pay itself off from runeluck + easy refills. other than that i wud keep it over aquila/wand for heroes like ember who can refill from fountain
                                                    aquila vs wand is whether you need split push vs fighting, although i usually see people sell wand over aquila.

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                                                    arin

                                                      relentless is back

                                                      TripleSteal-

                                                        woof woof

                                                        arin

                                                          why are furries on my dashboard again
                                                          seems like you might know something about it triple

                                                          TripleSteal-

                                                            rough translation from russian:

                                                            I fuck dogs, Im always up
                                                            With several cats to fuck;
                                                            yes, I'm a zoophile, dont talk
                                                            Better gift me a small dog.

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                                                            jo~

                                                              well i agree with relentless xD

                                                              King of Low Prio

                                                                No support has impressed me enough to earn a bottle

                                                                Soultrap

                                                                  @TripleSteal-
                                                                  This reminds me manga where a girl preferred to live with cucumber over her boyfriend...

                                                                  TripleSteal-

                                                                    that's pretty fucked up, even for a manga

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                                                                    TripleSteal-

                                                                      lMaoo