9/10 of deaths to creeps i see are intentional
i do it myself rather often, it saves time and money
yes, they're intentional
you buy out and it's a free teleport to base
some jungle tactics include a tactical suicide for faster jungling
free TP. And how come killed by neutrals count as feeding? it doesnt give the enemy anything
ok real question
at what point is it not worth to kys as a support to go back to base without putting tp on cooldown
If I want a sub 6 minute midas on blood seeker, I will actually suicide in the jungle sometimes for several reasons:
1) Stay at much higher % health in case you need to rotate or are getting ganked
2) Allows you to kill large camp at least 2 more times than you normally would, which improves your general gpm and xpm
3) You lose no gold if you buy a stout shield and tp/tps (you lose about 25 gold at worst)
4) You do not fuck with the courier, which is kinda important if anybody in your lanes needs anything
You can do this with pretty much any hero, and with talon and PMS, every hero can do this until about lvl 3 at which point it is less worth it to suicide.
I'd actually like to see this nerfed. Maybe with a longer respawn time if you die to neutrals or a token gold tribute spread amongst enemy heroes. Not sure how you could change it to keep the denial-when-being-hunted mechanic though - I think that is a good feature of the game.
Just feels a bit cheesy that it is being used as a free tp at the moment - even if you are just low on mana.
I'm confident froggie will discourage it in 6.89
^ no.
it's only even viable for the first few minutes of the game anyway.
and it's not OP, no reason to nerf it.
It's not about being op or not. It just messes with balance across the board.
A lane support can just spam his level 1/2 nukes, run out of mana, die and tp back to lane before he's even missed. Makes a mockery of clarities and mangos.
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In some 4k games (but I see it even more in 5k+) there are people that will jungle, and just get themselves killed by a neutral.
Is this intentional, or indirectly feeding without trying to make it look like feed?
I suppose I could understand denying yourself if you bought items and have like, 6gold, and low health, and kys to respawn and get to farming faster.
Other than that, I do not really understand.
Help. What is the point?