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General DiscussionIs monkey king op?

Is monkey king op? in General Discussion
Dire Wolf

    His overall win rate is just shy of 50%, though the meta tab shows him just over in most brackets. He does seem op in games but isn't actually winning them. Is it cus he sucks at pushing or sieging high ground? He's a giant pita to fight 1v1 but doesn't really seem that strong overall.

    Bobbyx Qrwa Mac

      He's fine. He's the kind of hero that has to commit a lot to do stuff but if he commits wrong there's no way he's getting out of a fight, he can't jump on trees while being attacked; Unlike a Slark who can just roflgetout. He's kited easily, and his moves are very predictable.

      Irithyll

        Just pick Visage, you'll see he's not that OP haha

        Seriously tho Visage is the one that's OP now

        rice cake

          sshh visage is not op

          adimoowin

            Perfectly Balanced. XD

            [Lk].Zano

              You could call him OP if this was 6.88, but right now there are other far more bullshit heroes you should be concerned with.

              adimoowin

                I have 90% win rate over 30 games. Seems Good, perfectly balanced.

                Klonu

                  Can anyone teach me vissage? yt link or sth?

                  Irithyll

                    Check Lil for visage player

                    Funny how this topic turns from MK to Visage, but seriously the 15 to 2 recharge rate is extremely broken, plus the Gravekeeper Cloak AoE aura

                    robert

                      Balance hero
                      Ready for captains mode

                      evy

                        Visage is the new WK kappa
                        click click click win

                        Irithyll

                          322mischeif is actually an MK spammer, but is quite good at it, for him to be beaten, you seem to have a much more aggeesive team than MK's

                          Or have a Visage on your team

                          ywn

                            played him once hes completely broken

                            Irithyll

                              See, all the attention is on MK, the not too OP one, not the true OP, Visage, AM aghs, and other true OP heroes..
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                              Rain

                                His laning and early game is pretty OP but heroes like slark, jugger, troll, PA, drow scale better than he does and more importantly, are much more reliable as carries.

                                He's more of an ursa or a TA, and we all know those 2 are far from OP, they just have insane physical burst damage, his burst is a bit slower, but his offensive nature is similar. He's more glass cannon then them tho

                                bearcat0611

                                  mk sucks when he is behind. If he's ahead he seems unstoppable if he's behind he's useless if he's equal its 60-40 enemy team. At least thats how he feels to me.

                                  Juice

                                    Yea, I agree with this hero being off balance.

                                    They purposely made him too strong early to sell more arcanas and shit, when sales are going down they likely nerf him quite a bit to sit at average heroes.

                                    I guess the "cancer of the patch" -vote is pretty much on one hero.

                                    Dire Wolf

                                      I only played visage once on a shit team, but his lane phase seems weakest since he needs a lot of dmg dealt to get much out of his nuke and his slow duration early is nothing. And he's super squishy early without grave. If you can get to 6 fast though watch out I think.

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                                        People don't know how to play him.
                                        He's a safelane carry who needs certain items to become the cancer he can be.
                                        IMO he's extremely broken, however people don't build the right items on him so they just become useless.
                                        Echo saber is a must have for mk every game.

                                        Riguma Borusu

                                          ^mk REALLY should not be a safelane carry, he's better at any other role except pos 5 support (but he can roam at level 1, much better than any other hero)

                                          Johnny Rico

                                            I have 100% winrate with him, and i just jumped on trees.

                                            BABING

                                              Mk Cannot be too Op? Unless your team Feeds Him Then yah gg Valve will need him soon I can just see it comeing.

                                              Shou

                                                He is extremely strong imo but not as a carry. Even as a carry he basically peaks after a few minutes, then the rest of the game is a slow decline, with slight bumps at big item timings. On the other hand as a roaming support like riki, he can ward rlly deep and be really safe, and has a 40% slow for 4 seconds LVL 1 THIS IS BROKEN. And just like riki he scales much better than other roamers. The roaming build is something like 4-1-1 with 1st skill into tree hopping. He can basically take all of ur bounty runes safely, and do basic riki things like ganking, only be much much more mobile and safer while doing it. Plus he has similar lvl 1 stats to riki and bh, with his ms and starting agi both being somewhere between riki and bh and on abt the same only he has 300 attack range. Watch zai play mk as a roamer its a great example.

                                                dead

                                                  Most MK i see in my games, Go offlane and dumpster the shitstains. Ez+25

                                                  Magnolia

                                                    Play him as a 3.5 (same with riki) and you can see how OSfrog he is . His rotation is bullshit , no one can see it. 40% slow lvl 1 is bullshit. Passive is insane , as a support no one can trade hit with him . He can put any ward anywhere without being seem

                                                    Shou

                                                      Passive is good, but tbh as a roamer it isnt needed, cuz usually with the slow and stun they die before u get in 4 hits. If ur laning mk as a support or something or find yourself trading hits a lot then it is good. By no means is it a bad skill, just doesnt fit the playstyle of roaming

                                                      Shou

                                                        OSfrog My finest creation OSfrog

                                                        Irithyll

                                                          It's frustating that when MK is picked by the enemy, they did great, but when allies picked MK, they do frustratingly ugly, even though MK is OP...

                                                          Fortunately, I have my Visage....

                                                          meteor hammer

                                                            he wont be nerfed for a bit. free mmr if you have a brain