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venz(xddx)

    SNY IS Back bitchesssssssssss

    Bosnian Blade

      nop

      casual gamer

        ranged oov pogchamp

        Shou

          As long as echo is an item melee wont want sny
          And ranged dont want sny cuz it isnt enough value for them

          Chao Vritra

            should Jugg get one now or no because he builds into basher? still manta for jugg most games? What are the best s&y heroes in the game i feel echo sabre sort of ruined this item for some heroes.

            Was excited about this, played nevermore last night and fed to a mid venge =( venge gets so tanky without tanky items..

            Snu

              Power treads and Dragon Lance are tanky items - especially for the early-mid game.

              Jugg needs Manta + other AS items, not S/Y.
              I'd say it is situational for Lifestealer (if you can get it early enough - esp. for the bonus Yasha move speed). I've seen some decent Gyrocopters get it (again, early). Dunno who else it is great on.

              venz(xddx)

                im getting sny on jugg everygame and drums too.. SEEMS GOOD

                ♛ O Excomungado

                  CK, Dk, Tiny, Sven are happy with this update.

                  Jacked

                    Poor mans eye of skadi?

                    LucaManny

                      troll good sny carrier

                      葉富森

                        i never saw a tiny with SNY before

                        Mr. Merlion

                          Wanted to say terror but skadi or manta is better.

                          Cнейкмонгер

                            only seems reasonably good on slark or something

                            maybe jug sven ck

                            but in general its just those melee heroes that need ms and slow to kill ppl

                            i guess sf too coz of the good ms and slow makes him inescapable and he can ez run from anybody

                            echo sabre is pretty much just for the mana regen, if you have cm in team its probably not nearly as useful.

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                            er

                              Sny is good if u want to kite people and still get some catching potential, I can think of a few situations when ill go sny on slark instead of skadi.

                              Mr. Merlion

                                Sven sny used to be the old meta until echo came out.

                                1-IceTea 🌟

                                  ^That's even older before I really comeback and play Dota 2 I never been to that Meta xD

                                  Better item now but not that amazing for sure

                                  venz(xddx)

                                    man icetea star getting better everyday

                                    white boy summer

                                      still shit cause there's manta and echo sabre, manta makes sny bonus movement a waste of money, the item is so expensive for what it gives, echo is better for dps and skadi is better for stats and slow

                                      Cнейкмонгер

                                        echo is better for dps

                                        :facepalm: :thinking: :facepalm:

                                        venz(xddx)

                                          doesnt sny gives bonus ms too? the fuck? too

                                          venz(xddx)

                                            plus sny is 4100 and manta is 5000 :thinking:

                                            venz(xddx)

                                              sny : bonus movement speeed 16% ; manta : bonus movement speed 10%?

                                              Cнейкмонгер

                                                like srsly how the fuck are you 3k if you think echo gives dps

                                                its only good for heroes who must kill heroes in <4 seconds and need to do it in the early-mid game (as in, slark, lifestealer, sven)

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                                                venz(xddx)

                                                  echo sabre only for naix,slark heroish cause they can kill and rape with it @giff me tango

                                                  Rab

                                                    SNY is must-have on troll
                                                    I've also tried it on venge and it seems pretty good
                                                    You buy it on razor too but who tf plays dat hero

                                                    dunce

                                                      Shou


                                                        SnY in 2017 LUL

                                                        Dire Wolf

                                                          Manta is far better on tiny. His ult +dmg is base dmg so his illusions get it making manta an amazing item on him.

                                                          It's not really good enough to change any builds, just buff existing builders like troll and gyro and dk.

                                                          Shou

                                                            Dk doesnt go sny, and neither does gyro.
                                                            Not a single hero goes sny except troll.
                                                            Dk gets armlet blink and bkb and stuff like that
                                                            Gyro gets aghs maelstrom
                                                            Neither shud buy sny

                                                            ImagineDodong

                                                              SnY is good for Razor and Viper probably, you pair it with Hpike and Skadi plus Satanic and BKB maybe its gonna work, also for Troll and Carry VS.

                                                              Dire Wolf

                                                                Yeah they're like the only two ranged heroes I would even consider it on. Maybe Ta as well.

                                                                Dk can go s&y no problem, he's not building echo like most melee heroes cus he's half ranged. It would be good on ck but manta is better.

                                                                That's pretty much the issue, almost every hero it's good on manta is better or echo sabre is better and it's overkill to have both.

                                                                casual gamer

                                                                  ta sny sounds worse than (diffusal pike orchid bkb manta)

                                                                  Dire Wolf

                                                                    TA goes diffusal? shows what I know, never play TA

                                                                    Goldy

                                                                      S&Y is viable on Sniper again as well. 6.83 coming back!! :thinking:

                                                                      kanra

                                                                        Sange and yasha - sny? If yes then is it legit on bs like old days?

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                                                                          When silver edge used to have a sange i always build sny on luna or vs then disassemble it to make silver edge and manta

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                                                                            but maybe they make it +20 str & agi instead of +16 (hurricane pike got +20 agi and +15 str while dragon lance gives +12 agi and str)

                                                                            venz(xddx)

                                                                              MAKE SNY GREAT AGAIN , SF SNY BACK AGAIN BITches

                                                                              offlaner

                                                                                TROLL WARLORD IS THE BEST SNY HERO

                                                                                Dire Wolf

                                                                                  I think it's redundant on sniper now that he has hurricane pike.

                                                                                  Cheap Laugh Guy

                                                                                    All ranged gets Pike now unless MS is really nice for them

                                                                                    The heroes I played and bought SnY on:
                                                                                    BS, Troll, CK, Razor
                                                                                    That's all really

                                                                                    Savvy Cat

                                                                                      I would play Razor if I still played. But not with an SnY or anything; only Shiva's and Refresher for me. He has so little impact without a slightly eccentric build like that.

                                                                                      SnY could be good if it had an active effect that gave you a similar mini-stun effect to MKB on like a 30 second cool down for 3-4 seconds. Just something to bring it back into man fighting, over all, not just running people down with decent strength and agility stats on very specific heroes. Which Skadi does better even in that for most.