General DiscussionCurrent meta for supports (mostly #4)

nothing really changed in pos 4 maybe morphling is the new one or the latest 2 heroes

Mk, willow, es, bane, venge, jakiro

sb is massively strong right now.

i cant pick new hero in cm and thats the only thing im concerned about.

i noticed venge and sb, is bane any good as pos 4 tho? i guess u either put him at 2 or 5.

nah definitely pos 5 bane

only way you could have a pos 4 bane is if you ran dual roaming

I thought it was a fucking joke when some kid went mid bane in my game https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3534103683 it kinda works, but you have to never fuck up.

this will be new meta bois

trust me im 3.2k HIGH SKILL (veeeeery high skill) my opnion needs to be respected

Honestly what you think about slardar roaming? guardian sprint in river is useless for laning stage, talents kind of meh...but the 1k night vision range is insane...pick offs all night long, say "F U nightstalker!"

tomorrow dota pit minor could be interesting to watch

bump

I don't see any serious nerfs to Lich. Well the patch wasn't really a nerf patch but a buff patch, except for tony.
Why do they hate tony so much tho.

I gonna spam two things that i spammed before for mmr (5th position): silencer and venge, except that venge now is as strong as never before.
Things i consider to spam but not sure is: Dazzle

Sb is op??!

in dotapit i saw the smae
stuff as usual

io, sb, sk, nyx

on a sample of ~6 slrdy played dota pit games n this patch there are also two bh-s and one pos 4 bane

For a 4 do you mean roaming or like dual offlane?

Dark willow seems really strong for both, spirit breaker always strong. Lion also seems ridiculous right now with a 1050 dmg nuke at level 16. And of course riki, he got some big buffs.

i mean second support, in the last patch it equalled roaming since laning supps are dead

indeed, i didnt read about 4th position :D sry. But isnt this patch is about 2 1 2 line up? Solo offlane results in a lost lane (twice longer exp gain when enemy denies creeps). So only roamer like riki or bh would be problematic, the second sup that has some potential to roam is better this way (e.g. venge). I think we can call this meta to be a fighting (the increase in creep gold and exp also fits this style)