There are plenty of ways to shut him down early.
1- Support harassment
2- MK/Ursa
3- Trilane till the enemy core is 1 or 2 levels ahead
he can push really fast and is great in taking rosh early
you can also farm really fast even without a lot of items
so yeah he's strong early on
If you just camp him in lane with a shadow shaman or some shit he gets nothing from his lane. He's like a fat snail just sitting there waiting to be killed.
He needs a lot of farm and levels. Sure, he does have the means to get them because the firestorm makes him a good farmer, but if his lane goes bad his contribution to the team for the next 10-15 minutes is nonexistent. He cant contribute to the fight or a gank in a way other heroes like Doom, Tide, Clock or Nyx would as soon as they hit their lvl 6.
He has little to none offensive capabilities. The firestorm requires the enemy heroes to just stand in it like idiots in order to deal a significant amout of damage and the pit is almost useless before the lvl 25 talent and rarely anyone gets rooted by it twice.
He doesn't offer initiation and needs to be combined with a position 4 or a mid which is able to initiate otherwise his team just gets destroyed by heroes like Tinker or Sniper who just stand in the back line and chip at you.
The only good things i can say about this hero are the fact that he can take Roshan quickly with firestorm, he pushes buildings quickly if you get a lot of kills in a teamfight and he's good at keeping the lanes pushed out and defending highground.
In my eyes this hero is like Tidehunter's autistic cousin he does the same stuff Tide does, but much worse.
@umbranox
have you ever tried playing him as a split pusher?
He has so much split push potential if he gets radiance and tp boots.
You literally push and pop ult before the enemy comes. Clear the creep wave with firestorm and you're back to your fountain. Then you use tp to teleport to the other lane and push it even harder since the rotations were forced in the other lane. I do this a lot and it works. It's impossible to keep the pressure on two lanes at the same time with other heroes but Underlord is an exception. He's a beast when it comes to split pushing.
Like this one: https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3668174512
"It's impossible to keep the pressure on two lanes at the same time with other heroes but Underlord is an exception."
Except like meepo, tinker, ember, lone druid, shadow fiend especially with lvl 25, anti mage is pretty good at this too, naga, natures prophet. Underlord really isn't that special and most of these heroes can do it even better than he can.
Your ultimate has almost a two minute cooldown at it's highest level, which means you cannot reliably use it to pressure two lanes at the same time.
I made this thread to show off my fucking winrate but you, a low MMR scrub living in the Archon trench, are teaching me how to play him?
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/289880120/matches?hero=underlord
I'm actually done posting good shit on this website.
@bearcat0611
Please, refer to this thread: https://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2018-01-14-how-to-make-dotabuff-2k-community-to-stop-giving-shit-advises-
@Tribo The guy made a valid point and you're shit-talking him. You think you're a god of dota cause you're winning games on underlord against brainless 4k opponents you must be so good.
STOP FLAMING PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY GIVE VALID POINT OR DISAGREE WITH YOU.
GODDAMIT PEOPLE
ITS THE SAFE LANE RIKI THREAD ALL OVER AGAIN
"hahaa a 2k player made a point so ill flame his mmr even tho it has nothing to do with anything except boosting my ego"
underlord is good against weak lanes
most safelanes with shit like shaman and bane arent weak
If underlord can safely stay within range of his atrophy aura, underlord will dominate the lane. If he cannot, then he is useless.
Heroes I hate the most as an Underlord player?
1) Strong laners who aren't afraid of trading right-clicks/cheap spells, MK/Ursa/FV/Bane/Ogre/Shaman/Jugg
2) Magic burst (Zeus, Mirana + setup, Lina, Lesh, Invo, NEC)
3) Armor reduction (Slardar, Dazzle)
I made this thread to show off my fucking winrate but you, a low MMR scrub living in the Archon trench, are teaching me how to play him?
Almost there as in, never there. Shut the fuck up, nobody cares about underlord, we got brokenlier and slowtress.
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https://www.dotabuff.com/topics/2017-12-19-topic-regarding-underlord
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/289880120/matches?hero=underlord
Expecting a nerf soon.