personally i have never liked the hero so i dont really care... its not so op that i would hate playing against him but also good enough u see some pro players playing him so i guess its fine? the ult is situationally great
I think the rework gave Troll some teamfight potential so it's good. Replacing Bash with Root isn't that bad of a trade since you can buy Basher if it's necessary.
Always +10 Agi, it's better to farm than to fight. Troll can't die during Trance, so more damage > more HP.
I prefer +90 Whirling Axe damage too. Speeds up his farm.
I think there are 3 things that need to be done to make Troll more playable if they're going to keep this current design:
1.) Make it so you can use items while in Battle Trance. I can't tell you the number of times I accidentally clicked the ultimate and then wish I could use my BKB/diffusal etc.
2.) Make the root go through BKB, or give it damage again. Troll lost WAY too much punching power when they took away the stun, the +damage, and the going though magic immunity all at once.
3.) Replace the awful +3 Fervor stacks talent and replace it with something that is actually usable. Even changing it to like "+5% AS per stack" would be slightly better, but as it is, Troll has no problems reaching max attack speed without the talent, and getting 15 attacks on someone without killing them is pretty damn unlikely.
1. Being able to use MoM, Satanic or BKB during ult is devastating.
3. The Fervor talent is fine. Max attack speed is 700 now, max Fervor is 450.
MoM will receive big buffs, I believe. Troll, Gyro, Luna, Void, Medusa, Sven, Drow and Sniper all have low winrates.
Make Berserk give 25% more lifesteal, volvo pls.
More than 100 games with Troll; around 60% win rate.
I like him, very stronk. Perhaps even a little too strong and may receive a nerf.
His main weakness is easy disabled hence S&Y and BKB are core; and imho basher too.
Once you got spell immune are you are Gucci.
Regards
Gecko
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Fellow mates, let's have a discussion over everyone's favorite infamous Troll, and specifically since his various new reworks.
What are our thoughts with the recent rework to his ultimate? Better, worse? Situationally unstoppable but shit other time?
I feel his utimate now has too long of a cooldown and too short of a duration considering how easy it is to make it irrelevant with say, a single Shadow Shaman Voodoo/Shackles or Lion impale/hex. 6.5 seconds on a 90 second cooldown is a small window if the enemy holds off.
I suppose that now Troll is mainly for jumping into the middle of a fight after all longer stuns/disables have been used, but then he doesn't seem to have enough damage to actually turn over a fight if your other allies get wiped first.
I've won most of my Troll games since 7.20's rework, but it feels they are either unfair lopsided matches we would've won anyway, or that I barely did anything and I won because my team carried me.
And how do we feel about his talents and the way you skill them? I feel that the agility talent is at times better because of the damage early on and early AS for jungling, but I also see that +250 health can be amazing. The fervor stacks talents seems absolutely useless because Troll is likely to reach max attack speed without the extra stacks, and +180 to your nuke combo is too good to pass up.
+50 damage seems to be my go to, with +25% evasion only being situationally useful. Likewise, I'd like to always take Battle Trace strong dispel, but it doesn't work on anything that silences you, so it's useless against Hex and Silences, which are trolls worst enemies anyway. I only take strong dispel if a long duration stunner is in the game like Bane or Shaman.