General DiscussionIs gameleap actually worth it

Idk, I dont even trust hardly any of what speed says anyways. He literally says everything is broken. His meta reviews feel rushed. Half of his videos are him begging for you to subscribe and donate money. Game leap itself can probably give some good tips. You're better off getting a coach if you wanna invest money.

I mean if your really dedicated learning why not try it? it doesnt mean you watch all of their videos you will improve instantly but for sure you will learn from it. its what pros actually doing sometimes i watch their videos on youtube and i tihnk it really make sense.

get a booster instead of coach, cheaper and u save time! remember time is gold

^This guy has a point so get me for boosting thanks rofl

its your boyyyyyyy speeeeeeeeeeeeeed and i am gonna show u how to go from herald to immortal top 200 in 1 hour

kowa nailed it very nicely

nahh coaching is trash imo, just look at your own games and see what u can do better and watch people with similar mmr getting coached and try to see if there are msitakes you are doing aswell that can be applied

It's v. good. If you don't like it, you can always get a refund. I think you can rank up 1000 mmr (considering you are archon) if you are really into it (apply the knowledge you learnt, not just watch videos). The issue with coaching is there are not many good coaches out there and it's actually way more expensive than gameleap. If you have money and want to climb as fast as possible I recommend getting both. If you are looking for a great coach I recommend Stormstormer, it's hard to get a better one. This guy is insanely good and his understanding of the game is beyond what websites like gameleap provide.

Thanks a lot vishnu, and kowareta it's easy to get a booster but problem is if I'm nt having the considerable knowledge or skill
I will comeback to archon again in no time

So boost not worth it for a person who wants to learn n stay in a bracket n climb constantly towards what u guys have achieved

I went from Ancient 3 to Divine 4 last season just watching those things BUT:

a) I only watched free videos on youtube. I think they are enough. Speed can really explain every tiny important detail what you may be doing wrong.

b) I was decent mechanically, only my decision making sucked. Thats why I grinded in a short time. If you suck at mechanics and I bet you do being on Archont, then Gameleap subscription wont help you much. Imo its for players that already know the basics and have decent mechanics.

Now you just need practise and to implement every new thing you learn from Speed in your games. Try to implement new thing every time you hit search button.

And what is the most important recommendation from my boy Speed ? Just hit the creeps.... Seriously just hit the creeps. If you are Archont then you dont hit creeps enough.

Thanks a lot lex

i watch dota2 stream on youtube to see perspective and gameplay of the good player so i can learn from them

why waste money on coaching when u can waste it on skins

i think you would do better looking at your replays and asking yourself what you did was wrong?

People usually get to 4k-5k level via being solid mechanically or having good macro. Then they need to work on shoring up the other half of their gameplay to compete at a 5k+ level as you need to be solid in both regards at that point.

I was casually a mid-Ancient player for quite a few years as I had a great mechanical base skill from years of WC3 Dota and League before, but I had weak macro decision making and wasn't making a concerted effort to improve. My weak macro could only hold me back so much at that level however, as I would win my lane 60%+ of the time and that would put me at a numerical advantage that would reduce the impact of my weak macro/itemization decisions.

Once I put in some effort to actually honing my macro late last year, I went from A2 to D4 in a month or two. Just watched my own replays occasionally and watched DotA Alchemy vids on youtube.

So my advice to an Archon player would be to focus on a particular aspect of your gameplay at first. If you're at that level, then you're not actually "good" at anything, you need to develop a strength for yourself. Then that strength will carry you to a higher level where you'll once again plateau when you either need to break your limits on your strength, or inevitably start diversifying your play to incorporate other aspects of the game.